why is my mobile home floor uneven

I don’t understand why the soft area would be spreading though. A few years ago, I replaced the insulation underneath my mobile home. Since a mobile home is typically up on bricks or corner blocks, there is a tendency for the floors to sag eventually. Sorry this is so long. Paul If that is correct, could you put a thin layer of wood (Shim) on top of the joists that would bring the plywood level? When your floor slopes from one end to the other end or has dips and sags, it is a frustrating, vexing problem that is difficult to make right again. Paul, Sheryl Many times mobile home owners will ask us to simply cut out soft spots in the mobile home floor and replace them with the new plywood instead of redoing the entire floor. If it is wet particle board and the you worry about how well the shower is supported, you are probably looking at removing it to do the repair. If you fasten down the new plywood with serious screws every 6-8 inches you can put a huge amount of force onto the the bump and may be able to flatten it that way. Paul Are you sure they are plywood? Paul, Tammy Sawyers However, removing the old is a LOT of work. That keeps seams to a minimum and makes the floor stronger. So no leaks no moisture from ground any ideas what can cause this and what else we can do??? It was laid at the time we moved in. For example, would it hold a piano? I always figured the extra cost of 3/4″ was such a small percentage of a flooring project it was worth it. The particle board is lumpy now & we wanted to put floating laminate flooring throughout. When doing a home renovation or remodel, there are many considerations. The drink is no longer being spilled, so therefore the problem is fixed, however we have noticed that the original soft spot has gotten larger, extending past the wood that is covering it. Paul, Sande Bill Your comment brings up a lot of interesting issues. A floor that is uneven in spots but does not have an even slope across the entire floor, is likely to be caused by bulging or loose plywood that has been used for your sub-flooring. Where the floors come together from each half…they are not together all the way. Should I lay the same in the bathroom to prevent future problems? Foundation issues, deteriorating wood supports (especially sills, which rest on the foundation footer), improperly installed joists or sub-floors, and other issues can all cause a floor to slope or sag. Paul The old thicker lineoleum in the kitchen has prevented any caving in a few spots in the kitchen but is getting borderline and the living room spots under (old carpet) is getting soft. I would NOT try to save a few dollars buying short screws There is, what looks like a “cold air” return in in the dining room ( 3’x4′ +/-) There is nothing hooked up to it. This is in the kitchen and bathroom. Would 1/2 inch plywood be sufficient to hold 2 bunkbeds? interesting article and discussion. They frequently occur in bathrooms, under flower pots, below windows, and behind washing machines. Paul When we did we found moisture and this started our journey that we are still on. I have a 2001 doublwide mobile home which has brick around bottom. The beauty of MH’s is that everything is very easy to get to for repair and most repairs are simple and inexpensive depending on your personal tastes for decor. This type of condition is also oftentimes accompani… Paul, Felicia Paul, Joan will the peel and stick tile stick to the plywood? 90% of the time doors are no problem because they are manufactured with greater bottom clearance than conventional homes. Getting the old ones off while preserving them for re-use will take a LOT of time. I really can not afford to purchase a home on what I get monthly so this is what I have to repair. How to Repair a Hump in the Floor. would plywood do the job??? { 77 comments… read them below} 2. Is it OK to cover this area up with subfloor and vinyl, or do I need to keep this unrestricted as a cold air return ?? You want to make sure your plywood is well supported on all the edges. You could reduce that by beveling the edge to create a sloped transition. Hi Bill, Replacing Ceramic Tiles – Counter top repair. Your mobile home subfloor may be made out of: Step 1 If you’ve noticed a small area of your floor which is raised or has wood planks protruding upward, you may have a hump in the subfloor. Kevin our wall and floor by our one kitchen window got badly damaged from water!!!! Heather Paul The only downside I could see is that the extra height may make a tripping hazard where new and old floors come together. hello i am contacting you all to see what you might be able to suggest about a moisture problem in our home. Paul I own a 1991 double wide fleetwood mobile home. I beleive just weak particle board. Sloping floors are most often caused by normal and acceptable deflection (bend) in the wood joists which comprise the floor structure. Leaving the water running suggests there was a LOT of anger. They occur when the subfloor gets wet, causing the sub floor material to begin failing. It’s hard. Novices typically do not replace a large enough area and they fail to make sure all the edges of the repair section are supported properly. Paul Thank you, I assume you have no plans to ever move the house . I wonder though if your AC condensation isn’t draining properly and water is getting into the vents. we are looking at doing some repairs to our mobile home. The result of the process of consolidation is soil settlement". In the long run it is cheaper if you plan to keep the MH as rental property or entended living for yourself. Cabinets will come down to how much the extra height bothers you & how fragile the old ones are. I don’t want to go broke fixing this small area but I want it safe for the new owners. It turns out that the height of the new plywood is about equal to the height of carpet. If the skirting panels are what I think they might be, look in your yellow pages for aluminum siding manufacturers. cathy The people said the daughter went out of town but left the tub running, The ENTIRE floor from the front room to the bathroom in drooped down and very soft. Could you use floor leveler (a concrete product) to fill the depression and bring the surface level? As I understand what you are describing, I think cutting out the soft spots and filling them in with plywood would be easier and cheaper. It makes me wonder what other hidden damage you might find. It is just week spot around my heating vents. Keith Posts: 6 Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:37 pm. typing this helped me think about it too. It's actually a very simple process. I would be planning to use 3/4″ outdoor grade plywood for your new floors. The home has a basement where we can see the floors, and I … Most every home with particle board subflooring will need to have their subfloors replaced eventually. If so, I would think there is a failed connection somewhere in the furnace duct system. leona kelly A dehumidifier can’t hurt, but I would be concerned the problem is the result of moisture under the home. In the bathroom I would suggest covering all the old with new plywood. fred -Andrew How to repair your Mobile Home Floor in a single wide trailer. I think I might have water or carpenter ant issue that caused this lower section to bulge out and I think to fix I should remove the siding sections that have come loose at the bottom in that area and piece in what I think would be 2×2 framing behind it so the siding could be screwed back on it properly to hold. I was continually amazed at the shoddy materials contractors would use to save a few cents per square foot. Hi Denise, If this is an ongoing situation, and your budget allows it, you might consider fixing it once and for all by putting down plywood. I'd suggest 2 ft deep and slightly larger than any block you intend to use. In many kitchen counters the faucet was brought up through the counter material itself and when the faucet washers or O rings fail water leaks under the laminate and the particle board fails. This week in our Ask a Mobile Home Expert series, we are covering questions about mobile home subfloors. What do you suggest I am so scared to take it and then be stuck with something that I can never live in. Water heaters usually start leaking when they fail and no one notices until it gets really bad. Thanks If I was doing this, for my own mobile for example, I'd find out the composition of the ground, I'd get jacks, and block. Paul Is the soft area near a window where it could have rained in? I not sure you need the tar paper at all given you are using waterproof plywood, certainly not over linoleum. It passed necessary insurance inspections but unfortunately, I did not purchase it. I was quoted approx $6,000 for repair & replace, but that seems incredibly expensive for such a relatively small area of flooring. Because soil shifts and house frames settle, there is usually a slight variation in floor level. Hi Dustie, I could never see any advantage to removing the old floor that made it worth the work. I purchased the correct size plywood but where it joins existing floor it is lower. You might consider putting down some temporary plywood pieces and see how they look/feel. So, please make absolutely certain there are no leaks or drips anywhere. Thanks for reading all the other material before writing. Most of the time I replace all flooring front to back if I find multiple soft spots in the home. It was a lot of work cutting out to right depth and trying to sand & or remove gluing under the particle board on the joists so I LIKE the idea of using tar paper over the particle board and and going over all with 3/4″ outdoor grade plywood for that part of the trailer. We've been told that laminate flooring requires the floor to be level but that vinyl flooring is more forgiving. Half inch might do the job, I just never wanted to be in a position where I was thinking “I wish I had…” The contractor told me all I needed to do was to staple the insulation to the floor joists, so we did not replace the belly paper. Do suppose that is the cause also? Is the water heater close to the problem area? If the edge of the tile is loose you may be able to pry it up by…, When cabinet doors in a mobile home stick the cure depends on the cause. Fill a container with water, add a little food coloring and mix. Second, whether you put new plywood over the old, or replace the old with new plywood fix as large an area as possible. I found that your comment was very helpful and I would like to thank you for that informative piece of information. I currently live in a mobile home, the floors have multiple soft spots and I am wanting to replace the entire floor. overflows from the shower and “water play” could seep thru bad caulking under the linoleum and destroy the wood underneath and the subsequent human weight in between the beams would cause the linoleum to separate making the problem worse? This is a situation where I think putting plywood (3/4″ exterior grade( makes sense. WE HAVE A TRAILERPLEASE ANY SUGGESTIONS !!!!!! That is a really hard question to answer because the “right” answer depends on so many things which are unique to you and your situation. Even though it will be painful to spend the money, I think you need to have the power, water, heat/A/C turned on and checked before you put money into repairs. They may be crimped together in manner they couldn’t slide apart if the trailer has been painted a few times which it has. I’m not sure what’s causing it anyone else have this problem? Tom Cut the Sub-Floor Out Around the Perimeter of the Room. This process is called preconsolidation. Some “events” I have seen include: I’ve seen LOTS of water damaged particle board that looks like this Please log in again. Cutting a piece of plywood to fill the hole, making sure the edges are supported by joists seems much easier than dealing with the door issues. Removing the old flooring and cleaning the joists and other prep work takes a LOT of time. However, I live where it is VERY dry (New Mexico) and know almost nothing about air conditioners. I have thick, rubber padded wood laminate to put down in that room after the area is repaired. Any help would be great!! If the block or pier footings have been improperly placed under the home or are disturbed, the home's floors will become uneven and sink or heave. holly Whether you’re planning to replace an existing floor or not, a hump in a subfloor requires removing the problem before it worsens. Paul, morgan What does that mean? erik I have plywood floors in kitchen an bath the floors are swelling up please help I have had the flooring replaced and new vinyl put in about 2 years ago. If it does removing it would make sense. Thanks a lot for the advice, I’m not too concerned about the cabinets in the kitchen because I will be replacing them so I will definitely be taking them out when I lay my floor. I have appreciated your commentary on fixing soft mobile home floors. This can be difficult and time consuming work because you are having to cut the old floor away half way across the joists without damaging the joist or the existing floor. BUT the question is could the sweating of the duct cause this and do we need to wrap the duct with insulation ? If the basement concrete floors aren't level, it is usually caused by foundation settlement or heave. Paul, mary Unlike renovating a site built house, a renovated 1980 mobile home will always be an “old trailer”. paul gallion I have a mobile home that I have decided to replace the floor in sever sections. Guess you would have to actually SEE it wouldn’t you. You don’t want to break a leg going to the bathroom in the middle of the night. When I purchased a MH with damaged floors, which is usually the case, I remove the carpet and padding and/or tile, put down black roofing paper over the original floor and then lay plywood or OSB down with screws rather than nails. One of the aspects of building with natural products is that nature can sometimes win over despite the best of modern engineering. If the block or pier footings have been improperly placed under the home or are disturbed, the home's floors will become uneven and sink or heave. That would make it easier to flatten the bump. I know that when I built floors by putting 3/4″ plywood over the old particle board & filled the seams with Bondo I got a hard, smooth floor that felt wonderful to walk on. Kellee Paul, Cleo Cat We have a double-wide, 85′ long, and the walking space in the middle of our narrow bathroom is sinking down. You will want to keep the plywood you cut to put down on the floor as large as possible. I always used exterior grade plywood so it would not delaminate if it got wet occasionally. What do you think? Normally if I have 20% or more damage to a room I replace the entire floor. Paul Patty Paul, Sophie Thanks Loretta. What I found was that if there was the slightest amount of dirt, sawdust, dust from sandpapering wood or drywall, left on the surface the tiles would not stick. Hi Leona, I know that I need to find the source of the moisture and have laid a 1/4″ plywood over the spot (learned from reading the comments here) . Paul I have replaced the roof and the problem still exists. This has been a real mystery to me and I have ran out of ideas as to what would cause this. Would you suggest working around them or going under? Before doing anything else I think it would be wise to get to the root of the problem causing the soft spots. My plan is to use the laminate in all rooms except baths. Maybe? You can hire someone or try a few of these tips to level sagging mobile home floors. If there are actual holes you might have to pull the carpet back and nail in extra supports to the floor joists. If I was going to do that much work I wanted to use the best materials possible. Yes. Excellent comments and help! Has several soft spots of about 3′x4′ each in the floors. Paul, Denise I have about 450 sq ft of flooring with soft spots, so I may as well get it all done at once. If you screw the sub floor down correctly you also eliminate squeaking. Could you fasten (glue + screws) a piece of 2 x 4 to the side of the joists and them so they support the new plywood at the right level? I think having an experienced mobile home A/C guy check it would would be a good start. Floor has become uneven. Plywood, especially outdoor grade, is very resistant to water. I can’t think of anything you would learn that would make worth tearing up the belly to look from below. Manufactured Home Cabinets Mobile Home cabinets are some of the cheapest, poorly constructed furnishings known to man. 3/4 treated plywood in the weak areas with transition to the strong areas seems to make sense. I use this as a camping trailer to visit a couple of times a year while fishing in the area with family. The floor may roll a marble and looks to slope now that the carpet has been removed. They are frequently made of paper and held together with staples. When a floor joist or joists are too long and extend past the center beam, they can cause a hump in the floor. When I was considering this house, I went through it several times; there were only two soft spots, which the inspector pointed out in his report and walk-through. An uneven floor on any level of your home can be cause for concern. I know we have a leak because my water meter doesn’t stop. Hello! Hi Andrew, © 2020 Mobile Home Doctor - WordPress Theme by Kadence WP. In the past year or so our floor has been having several places where it is soft and caving in. Your description makes me wonder if the vegetation and slope around the house have changed over the last 30 years. I hope I can assume you have fixed whatever caused the floor to buckle like that. I was much happier repairing floors by covering the old floor completely with new plywood. Floating floors are a less expensive option when dealing with uneven surfaces. Thanks for your help I would like to make it better and more functional keep from deteriorating anymore. First of all, make sure any water leaks have been fixed. After logging in you can close it and return to this page. Replace Your Old Uneven Floor Cheap and Easy.We show you how to replace your uneven flloor or subfloor. I would like to just go over the entire floors with 1/2 or 3/4 inch plywood, my concern is what about the threshholes to main doors, my doors are metal and can not be cut. Hi Joan, The number two reason your home becomes unlevel is improper blocking when the home was first set-up. Has that oak tree grown And here is where it’s even worse….cold air in the winter blows up underneath the carpet. Subfloors are an important subject in the mobile home world. Particle board is “famous” for falling apart at the slightest touch of water. I was thinking of cutting that spot out installing a patch then covering the floor. 1. The middle is always droopy, so it is hard to say if it is also wet. The floors give right around the vents. Owned & Operated by WTBF Media, LLC, How to Find Mobile Home Repair Contractors & Repair Professionals to Get the Job Done Right, water on your floors or countertops run to one side, cracks are developing in your ceiling or walls, skirting has buckled (although this may be caused by ground heave). If you have to pull back carpet, cut out the soft area, and put in new subfloor, it will get expensive. Few aspects of a home elicit as much anxiety as a floor that out of level. My first thought would be to crawl under the home and see if there is water trapped under there. Anything that drips water onto the floor can cause it. All leaks have been repaired and the dining room completely remodeled (torn up & replaced with plywood). 1. I am going to assume the existing flooring is particle board. Soft spots are less common in newer homes that have plywood or OSB (Oriented Strand Board) subfloors. So the questions are on the possible moisture issue form ground clearance at one end of the trailer due to sloping land and how it was set to begin with AND the removal and reinstallation of the siding sections (kind of vertical corrugated aluminum look in what think may be 4′x8′ sections. I did replace under refrigerator and by front door by cutting out and piecing in some 1 3/8″ plywood. Its really easy to spend a lot more than you planed while increasing the value much less than you expected. Paul Near tub and other places where the old flooring breaks away you can fasten wood strips to the floor joists the being them level with the rest of the floor. Hi Bobby, Is it wood under there, or particle board? When this is combined with the fact that the counter is weakest at…. A home is twisted and bounced around during transport and…, My question i am going to put the 3/4″ plywood over the particle board. Over the last 50 years, the flooring material in factory built homes has changed from … I am disabled and was given a 1980 singlewide. A structurally-unsound home (the inexperienced home inspector's perspective) An ability to hose down your dining room floor (the practical homeowner's perspective) In most cases, none of these choices is quite accurate. Kathleen Did that to match heighth existing to surrounding linoleum. Any ideas on what this could be since it’s in the dining room and not near any bathroom, dishwasher….etc? If your flooring is 3/4″ set your circular saw … It is about an 8 Ft by 10 ft area just outside the bathroom. i need to repair the sub floor of my 1997 doublewide i want to just go over the entire floor but can i do that in the kitchen ? My thought is that 3/4″ wouldn’t cost much more and if you used a lot of deck screws to fasten it down you could be sure those bumps would get flattened out. Hi Tanner, Don’t know if there is a need to get under the trailer and look at the heating vents where it goes into the flooring. Along the edge of a bathtub the floor is mushy and just in the doorway of the bedroom near it. I think you could also plan to support that area of the wall by adding at least one pier under it. Good luck with it. Bobby just since December I’ve had to replace the entire AC unit and now my floors are getting very, very soft. Paul First and most importantly, make sure you have fixed the water leaks which caused the soft spots. What would cause this and would it be expensive to repair?? This is a job best done when replacing the floor insulation in your mobile home. Paul. ... with a ridge from one side of the home to the other as mentioned the first thing to do is have a qualified expert mobile home contractor check and relevel the home if needed. A relative moved a frig in and out and too much concentrated pressure as on a soft particle board to take it. My husband and I bought a mobile home for retirement. The front end (living & kitchen(without water service to it by the way) has developed soft spots. What about when the floor “sticks up”? There are a few soft spots in the floor, one is in the kitchen one is in the hallway and the other in the bathroom, if I were to lay down 3/4″ ply wood over the old floor my only concern would be the floor being noticeably higher around things such as the toilet, cabinets/ counter. There hasn’t been any water damage that I can see/notice, nor was any disclosed by the previous owners. I’m *hoping* that that seal and jamb and under-wood is compromised simply because we have 3 autistic children that do severe water damage to the bathroom all the time, and not due to a leak. I never could for sure figure if humid air in West Central Missouri (down in the woods close to river) would cause more humidity to be under whole trailer even when the ground moisture was not there. Just not sure what to do. I am always curious if my “long distance Wisdom” is accurate. Mobile Home Floor Problems. Unlike a conventional home which has a foundation, most mobile homes depend on blocks or piers for support. We have a 2010 wildwood.we got a leak which spread through the floor before we noticed,the floor as gone soft.My question is can we put plywood over the floor or do we have to take up the old floor first I think you could buy or rent a circular saw that has an adjustable blade which can be set to whatever depth you want. If you are in a mobile home park you might ask the manager if s/he have any suggestions. Good luck with the project. Your tips seem appropriate to my problem. I have in the past torn out damaged particle board but it is much simpler and faster to just overlay the particle board if you have excessive damaged to repair. I have seen a circular area of a floor destroyed by a large plant in a clay pot that wasn’t properly waterproofed. Q: We lived in our home for 22 years and recently noticed a hump in a floor between the kitchen and the living room. I would expect it to reduce labor costs significantly because of the reduced prep time. I have never seen a floor where the a joist was the cause of this. Unlevel floor: This may be due to the home settling over a number of years from the outside due to peers shifting or a poor foundation for which the home sits on. Paul, dustie If your floor is significantly sloped towards one direction, this could be an indication of structural damage such as foundation damage or settlement. So…. And if the insulation got wet do we need it all taken out and replaced. Paul Once you have the floor dry and are confident it will stay that way I can’t see any reason not to put new, exterior grade, plywood over the old floor. So if you haven’t needed the heat/AC from the existing floor vent you should be fine to cover it. I have looked at the windows and caulked a few but the problem is still there. Would the old water damage mess up the new wood. That could make the plywood feel “springy”. The lumps arent too bad, but enough to be a concern. We have had all ac ducting replaced, have put plastic put underneath, added another return air installed made sure the belly has no opening. Thanks for any input and please email if any ideas. I tried to use quarter round or a threshold board to make the transition from the lower to higher floor level trip free. Do you recommend adding ventilation of some sort further back under the higher section of the trailer where I would have room to cut out and screen some areas? Am I correct in thinking you cut out the bad areas and are fitting the new plywood into the opening? For example, cleanup and disposal of old carpet, drywall, etc. Could there be some kind of condensation problem from the AC that would cause this. Subfloor Materials. If is reasonably solid I would just make sure the screws I was using to fasten down the plywood were going into the floor joists. If it is two or three I seem like cutting out the soft spots and placing new plywood would work. Amazon, or your local library, have a variety of books on how to pick contractors that cover the subject in more detail that I can here. 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